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Medjugorje

For decades now, I’ve been assaulted by people who insist that Medjugorje is worth attention. They would send messages, daily messages, and talk of it endlessly. Some are still that way.

I’ve never been convinced. I’ll talk about Fatima all day long. The alleged events at Medjugorje have always struck me as “off.”

Since I’m on a roll of Fr. Hardon quotes lately, I looked up some of his opinions on it.

In 1992, he said

“except for the charismatics, Medjugorje would still be an unknown and unpronounceable name to most Catholics. Nothing that I know of Medjugorje, the alleged locutions, prove to me that they are supernatural. However, having said that, there are priests, confessions heard there. All we need is priests to open up confessions, everyday unlimited, and you’d have a stream of people. Medjugorje, then, not because of any visions, but having come and prayed their rosary and gone to confession have gotten closer to God. fine.”

His implication was direct:  the pilgrimage and praying the rosary, and the offering of the sacrament of confession was the source of any good fruit.

Again, at another place, he says again about confession said at Medjugorje (Fr. pronounced it Med-ju-gore-gee):

“the problem, as you realize, is very deep. Because there is no question you’ve got priests hearing people’s confessions anywhere; Detroit, Medjugorje, San Francisco, or Paris. And people will come to confession. Right? Those that have the Faith, want to go to confession. Now there’s no doubt, you know many people; conversions, confess to the priests who are taking care of them. But behind Medjugorje are the alleged apparitions. And as I’ve said so many times, to put it mildly, I have strong reservations.”

Notice the subtle shift by Father. He was essentially saying it wasn’t worth a trip there — that you could get the same effect by going to confession anywhere. (not to mention say your rosary).

Today, we are faced with some sort of commission pending a report on Medjugorje. La Stampa went so far out on a limb as to say that the report will say that there was no hoax in the alleged apparitions.

I don’t believe that. Fortunately, even if the report does end up that way, Church does not compel me to believe in it. (thank God)

There is a lot of strangeness about Medjugorje, and while I hesitated to post this video link, I do think it is worth watching, if for nothing else, to present more information about it, and especially information you might not have heard.

Do you think these alleged apparitions are supernatural? What about the lies made by the seers discussed in the video?


This article, Medjugorje is a post from The Bellarmine Forum.
https://bellarmineforum.org/2014/02/18/medjugorje/
Do not repost the entire article without written permission. Reasonable excerpts may be reposted so long as it is linked to this page.

John B. Manos

John B. Manos, Esq. is an attorney and chemical engineer. He has a dog, Fyo, and likes photography, astronomy, and dusty old books published by Benzinger Brothers. He is the President of the Bellarmine Forum.
  • Deb says:

    In 2007 I was brought to Medjugorje. My trip was paid for by a seminarian I had never met. My sister (whom I could not stand) convinced me to go with her. I did not believe in God, did not believe in organized religion, I despised the Catholic Church and all it stood for. I was pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, ultra left wing, union officer, political activist. 48 hours after we arrived in Medjugorje, I knew that God existed and that I was a sinner. I was horrified to discover that what I believed to be reality was just an illusion and that God was the reality. I gained a peace in Medjugorje that I could never have believed possible. I came home and struggled, but six months later was in RCIA and then confirmed in the Catholic Church. I won’t get into what I witnessed and experienced in Medjugorje, but I firmly believe the seers and that the Blessed Mother is bring people there to bring them to her Son. Now, almost seven years later, I am still in love with our Lord Jesus. He is my life, my light, my reason for being. I am a very traditional Catholic. I lost all of my friends and half my family when I chose to take the Lord’s hand. Now, if the Church states Medjugorje is a fraud, I will close the door on it, but it will never change the fact that going there changed my life and I believe I was brought there by the Lord so that He could work His miracle upon me without the distractions of my life. One more little tidbit, the seminarian who paid my way, (now a priest) went from being a business man to a man of God after he was brought to Medjugorje. Think what you will. I myself never went to confession in Medjugorje. 🙂

  • Zvone Legenda says:

    The video link posted within completely lacks objectivity. Subsequently, it taints this blog also.

  • Titus says:

    There’s no disputing that there are people like Deb who have reaped spiritual fruits in connection with traveling to Medjugorje. But the seers and the accounts of the apparitions are beyond strange. Even if the Blessed Virgin is not appearing at Medjugorje, of course, we ought not be surprised if God uses the place as an opportunity to confer graces.

    Likewise “BVM is appearing” and “no supernatural character” are not the only options. There are supernatural beings other than God, the saints, and good angels.

  • The Flash says:

    All this gay stuff comes from WHORING heavy drugs and sex outside of marriage, when that happens people receive evil spirits. If you go out as a young person to bars looking for the opposite sex and wind up in the sack with someone involved with bi-sexuality or someone involved with the occult, and you didn’t know it …u received a evil backwards spirit.

    Many people in this generation have evil spirits and (don’t know it) that includes straight people..because of whoring and very few have repented. Others are polluted with evil spirits and r possessed and sleep around everywhere infesting more people…inside of those who r possessed, “{gay)”,many many r waiting to be freed from the grip of satan because they r possessed and there is nothing they can do about it, unless someone prays for them. Which very few do, because for whatever reason, no one seems to understand.

    At the same time many gay people who r possessed, secretly get involved with churches not telling people they r gay and end up wearing holy e tire….telling the people to except the gay life style, blah blah blah and because so many people have very little faith, they will except whatever they r told to keep peace and for the good of humanity….which is a pile of crap!

    This is a current list of accused priests http://bishop-accountability.org the number of accused priests is beyond staggering!

    Many other churches have the same problem…a good church is far and wide between in this generation.

    If u were to look back in history, there was alot of gays in the early 1900′s and gay movies at theaters. In 1917 The Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to children in a place called Fatima. She gave a warning that if people don’t repent God the Father will punish us by a world WAR…that happened, not just once but twice. When the wars was over, in the 40′s and 50′s was the cleanest time with many living with good morals. Divorce was taboo, the movies were clean and decent and people like my mom did not even know what a lesbian was until the 60′s.

    In the 60′s young people rebelled…heavy drugs, dirty feet and dirty bodies and hair…open sex ,orgies and whatever. The singer Cher was a part of that and tried a lesbian thing that she realized was not for her….the point is, she tried it! and got cursed for it, just look at her daughter or son…whatever this person is? that goes with many many others…it started back in the 60′s and many r cursed by it. There is even prophecy that the pope at that time stated “the smoke of satan has entered the church.

    Here’s something off the wall. The Lord has different ways of showing people stuff, if they r receptive. The rock star Alice Cooper was the first man to have a woman’s name .We all know how he flaunted sick images of all kinds in everyone’s face. Alice Cooper comes from a very strong long line of ordained Baptist Ministers and other preachers in his family. His father was a ordained Baptist Minister and the woman AC married, her father is also a ordained Baptist Minister.

    When he first came out IN 1968 0R 69 the majority of people hated his guts BIGTIME!…In LA people would buy tickets just to walk out….even when they came to see Jim Morrison and the Doors…they cleared the building empty when Alice Cooper took stage before the Doors.

    Within ten yrs after Alice Cooper …gay bars flourished in all major cities…men dressed like women and women dress like men…Everything u see when u look at Alice Cooper is what this generation is all about…total darkness. What people use to hate is now excepted as a normal thing. When AC chopped babies to pieces in front of the world…they didn’t realize, it’s about them and the onslaught of abortions everywhere!…instead, they would point the finger at AC and say your sick! when it’s really the whole generation that is sick.

    AC has never, ever, whored around, never divorced, and he’s not covered in tatoo’s like everyone he is surrounded by.

    There is more to this, The Blessed Virgin has appeared everywhere around the world…VERY FEW LISTEN….There is a Great Warning coming to everyone…After the Warning, many will flock back to church not realizing many of the churches r sick. Soon, after the Warning, the ANTI CHRIST will come out as a man of peace and per sway the people that gay is ok, and preachers the current pope and governments political people and many by the multitudes will agree with this anti christ…until he shows his full colors.

    When he shows his full colors, persecution of Christians will be alarming…..the same thing that everyone has seen at a Alice cooper concert…the hangings guillotines, electrocutions will happen in real life to many Christians and to those who will not take the mark of the beast…which will be a computer chip on the hand or forehead..

    It’s true…The Second Coming of Christ is right above us. It’s going to happen in our life time…once the Warning, then the anti christ for approx 3 and a half yrs…then The Second Coming.

    Only Catholic prophets r calling out about the Warning in the Christian world..all other Christians from different denominations….r putting flames to it because it comes from the Virgin Mary and only a few listen to her when she appears with messages for the whole world. Even many many Catholics today r against these messages of The Warning and Second Coming of Jesus.

    Because a whole pile of them, r queer.

    In Jesus Name, Thy Will Be Done, Amen and Amen (*)

  • […] I posted here a long time ago now a worthwhile expose of Medjugorje.  Much of this had been catalogued by E. Michael Jones, and a video of him describing the apparent inconsistencies, seeming lies, and overall strangeness of the seers and messages appears on that post.  I’ve always been of the opinion, mostly formed by the aghast reactions of older Catholics to the phenomenon, that something was wrong with the messages and secret cult around them. […]

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